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11-30-2007, 02:31 PM
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He was in VPS, he need Dedicated server:
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I have been using a VPS for my CMS's (Joomla,SugarCRM and OpenAds)
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11-30-2007, 03:32 PM
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Hi you oviously did not read my post before replying, I did not recommend a VPS I recommended a scalable VDS Virtual Dedicated server, there is a difference and he would be getting the power of a dedicated server for a fraction of the price which can easily be scaled to more powerful quad quad core systems with no downtime if he ever needed it.
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11-30-2007, 04:56 PM
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Out of curiosity, what is the technology that a VDS uses? I know about 'classic' VPS technology like Xen/Virtuozzo/VMWare etc, but am not across how a VDS may be implemented.
I have seen a few hosts implementing what they call 'VDS', sometimes on even cheapo $3.95/ month shared accounts, and wondered what it really meant and how it was implemented.
Is it just another name for process and privilege isolation (eg jailing and suexec?) rather than complete memory/disk/CPU etc compartmentalization?
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11-30-2007, 10:40 PM
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If you took the time to read my first post, you would have seen that I explained the difference between VDS and VPS.
If you know a company advertising $3 VDS then he is in no way offering a true VDS. The main difference between VPS and VDS is that VPS are constructed of several small VMs and in the case of openVZ usually always oversold in order to compensate for low price offerings.
With our VDS, Virtual Dedicated Server Line, they are just that a virtual dedicated server, we take a massive system all Quad Cores, with a 16GB of RAM and mount each VPS to a 100+ Disk iSCSI array which solves the issues of storage speed found in typical VPS setups. Each VPS is then assigned 1 or 2 cores guaranteed depending on package but the load can be evenly split across all cores on the system 4 to 8 depending on which server they are on.
What this means is the person is getting the power of a P4 Core 2 Duo with faster disk read and write times than they would ever achieve from a single dedicated server if they purchased one. So we adopted VDS, it is not our fault if some companies choose to market standard vps as a VDS.
It also means that if the customer needs scalability that we can transfer them to a dedicated quad core and as far up as a quad processor quad core system if they ever needed that much power and we can do this with no downtime to them, it saves you money by going this route because you can scale only as you need it and not have to worry about when you need that extra power.
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12-01-2007, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by QuantumNet
If you know a company advertising $3 VDS then he is in no way offering a true VDS.
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Tell that to these guys:
http://www.westhost.com/vps-web-hosting.html
Sounds pretty exactly the same as your blurb about VDS.
Are you sure you are not just one of their re-sellers 
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12-01-2007, 10:34 AM
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Hi there buddy, there is no need to be a forum troll,
No we are not one of their resellers, we are not a reseller period. Our virtualization technology is OpenVZ but as stated our setup is much more complex than a typical VPS setup which gives a person the true power of a dedicated server at the fraction of the cost. We dont participate in small end oversold VPS.
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12-01-2007, 10:51 AM
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To my understanding,
Your server have plenty of RAM (16GB) and maybe 4 cores CPU, but your client does not have all of them, they still get only the resources allocated ( depends on package, 256Mb ram, 512MB ram, 1GB RAM....) and even less CPU power i guess.
In other words, you have bigger server then you put more VDS on it.
The thread owner was suggested to get a Dedicated hosting then obviously he was not in 3$ VPS, so most likely he had something like 30$/month with at least 256MB
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12-01-2007, 11:57 AM
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WHy do you guys keep twisting my posts around you stated nothing to do with what I posted and have absolutely no relation or truth to what I offer or wrote, before making such replies you should actually read what someone wrote.
This forum is full of trolls and I will never post here again, biggest damn mistake.
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12-01-2007, 12:57 PM
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I am not trying to twists your posts.
Since it is a FORUM, people can discuss for whatever they want as long as it does not violate the rules. And of course you can correct me if i am wrong.
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12-01-2007, 01:28 PM
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Hi Fastproxy, if you read up through my many posts I have specifically wrote why my service consititutes a Virtual Dedicated Server, that is very scalable. And not the typical VPS that has 256MB of RAM and shared CPU.
But everyone keeps coming in and commenting without reading the posts and it is very annoying in that I should not have to repeat myself 1000 different ways just to keep people from getting the wrong idea based off someones post.
Quite frankly I am upset with myself for ever posting in these forums as it was a mistake and waste of time. I was simply explaining to the guy what things would suit him best and save him money, but got slammed by everyone for doing so. Same reason we never post on WebHosting talk because of stuff like this
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