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ffeingol · #1 01-25-2010, 06:22 PM

Hello Guys,

Over in the cPanel forum they just posted this thread: http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/cpanel-1...ng-145417.html This item in section 2 has me particularly nervous:

Quote:

To account for the Apache behavior, and to retain the data integrity of the domain and bytes logs, a new method for Apache to log information is being introduced. Rather than logging directly to files, Apache will log directly to a pipe. Both virtual host data, as well as the service level access data, will be written to the pipe. This feature is only available to servers using Apache 2.0 or 2.2.

Is LSWS (both version 3.x and 4.x) going to be able to deal with the pipe based log files? I don't have a real 'warm fuzzy' about this one

Tony · #2 01-25-2010, 06:53 PM

lsws does support piped logging so I assume it should work fine. Going to test it though once it is actually part of 11.25.

ffeingol · #3 01-26-2010, 08:29 PM

Any 'official' word on this (testing etc.). The new logging method is in Edge right now.

mistwang · #4 01-28-2010, 01:04 PM

Other hosting control panels like Plesk uses piped logger, it works well with LiteSpeed, so I think it will work well.
We have update our cPanel to Edge, but it does not use piped logger. If you know how to enable it, please let us know.

Tony · #5 01-28-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistwang

Other hosting control panels like Plesk uses piped logger, it works well with LiteSpeed, so I think it will work well.
We have update our cPanel to Edge, but it does not use piped logger. If you know how to enable it, please let us know.

They say it's in builds later than 42552 according to http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/cpanel-1...ng-145417.html and when you run the update it rebuilds the httpd.conf. Might want to try running /scripts/rebuildhttpdconf and see if it then adds the piped logging. My only other guess is it won't turn on unless it's apache 2 or 2.2 is what cPanel is set to having on.

mistwang · #6 01-28-2010, 05:32 PM

I got 42994 with the EDGE, tried rebuild httpd.conf, apache 2.2 is used, no piped logger in httpd.conf. Go back to RELEASE see what happen.

ffeingol · #7 01-28-2010, 05:36 PM

We just switched our testing VPS to edge and it's running the file based logging also. We're on Apache 2.2.14. I posted on the cPanel forum for 'clarification'

ffeingol · #8 01-28-2010, 06:30 PM

OK, they just posted in the cPanel forum (I missed it before). You have to open a support ticket to get the new piped logging. They only want 'real word, production enviroments' (Yea, we're going t run edge in production).

Having said that this sounds even worse:

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When the piped logging method is enabled Apache will pipe logs to a common target process, a program started by Apache that is listening on the pipe; the receiving process will then automatically split the logs into their expected per-domain version.
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Assuming I understand this correctly, Apache will be writing all logs to a pipe. This new daemon/process will then read the pipe and split the logs into the individual sites log files. Since the program to read the pipe is 'started by Apache' and we're not running Apache this does not sound good.

mistwang · #9 01-29-2010, 09:05 AM

That's what a piped logger exactly does, it is fully supported.

ffeingol · #10 01-29-2010, 09:15 AM

@mistwang,

Ok, I'm gland that I understand it correctly and it is support. My real question (and I don't know that anyone has the answer yet) is how does the 2nd process (the one that reads the pipe and splits the files) get started. From the cPanel post it's started by Apache, so the question is if we're not running Apache (because we've go to 4.x) what will start up the 2nd process?