damn, I did, Been up 36 hours working on them. Their easyapache updated and its all to hell. Finally got ssl working again by doing apache 2, mod_userdir still messed up. Got cpanel support to look at the issue, here is their response. After I wrote a 2 paragraph ticket explaining that lsws does not change or alter any of their sh*tty apache stuff. lol, load average was .04 at the time he logged in. Does not good to explain to them that all lsws does is use the config and if modules are messed up in that config it wont work. A few months back, I had them go look at something, I forgot what it was but. They closed the ticket and said my server had been comprmised and rooted as I had a dangerous hacker tool process running called "psybnc" Im seriously about to give up these guys, I pay too much for that. Anyway, anyone know a way I can rig up mod_userdir?